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Untitled

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untitled drawing

Comments (5)

guest May 24, 2009 · 11:26 PM
"If you really think about the argument Obama made yesterday -- when he described the five categories of detainees and the procedures to which each will be subjected -- it becomes manifest just how profound a violation of Western conceptions of justice this is. What Obama is saying is this: we'll give real trials only to those detainees we know in advance we will convict. For those we don't think we can convict in a real court, we'll get convictions in the military commissions I'm creating. For those we can't convict even in my military commissions, we'll just imprison them anyway with no charges ('preventively detain' them). Giving trials to people only when you know for sure, in advance, that you'll get convictions is not due process. Those are called 'show trials.' In a healthy system of justice, the Government gives everyone it wants to imprison a trial and then imprisons only those whom it can convict. The process is constant (trials), and the outcome varies (convictions or acquittals). Obama is saying the opposite: in his scheme, it is the outcome that is constant (everyone ends up imprisoned), while the process varies and is determined by the Government (trials for some; military commissions for others; indefinite detention for the rest). The Government picks and chooses which process you get in order to ensure that it always wins. A more warped 'system of justice' is hard to imagine."
yanbu May 24, 2009 · 11:44 PM
is this your choice of action then - copying and pasting other people's political options that resonate with you the most, verbatim, on a website that is dedicated to artwork? you're not discussing anything, or interacting with anyone here, you're just copy/pasting statements. this would be the least effective place to speak out to make some kind of difference, i'm not sure that's even on your agenda. it's just that you are totally uninterested in drawing, and are seemingly obsessed with posting long political quotes. why not participate in what's happening here?
allman vibe May 25, 2009 · 12:35 AM
i would not mind the long boring quotes if the pictures were better
Al May 25, 2009 · 1:36 AM
Well said Yanbu. I would have said something like 'Shut the fuck up'. But that doesn't seem to do any good. Haha!
mf May 25, 2009 · 3:09 PM